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Words by Siobhan68 Words by Siobhan68
Woohooo.... The second finished piece of my personal 24-Theme-Challenge.

This is *Words*.
Since Helmorui have a special sign language, called 'Comhartha' I thought it to be very befitting to paint that. The hands and fingers of Helmorui are very slender and nimble, they are perfect for this complex language (that is exactly the same like the sign language of the famus drow. I am quite aware of that.)
Whole discussions can be led in Comhartha. This is Cronachan, wearing his embroidered velvet vest, showing the sign for *words*.

My model was Lothar, my best buddy.
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elDrow Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Student Artist
This is very nicely done. I love the pose the hands are going for. However, this is not bad criticism so don't take it the wrong way. I'm sure many people come around to annoy the hell out of you with something that might sound the way I'm trying to put it, but, if you are going for your own type of dark elf, why not just jumping entirely into it? You seem to have enough material. I would consider a few changes, and that's it. Then again, that is just a suggestion. I know it can be difficult with all the stories that are done about the famous dark elves, and specially the ones that took the myth of the dark elves and turned them into the drow that we know and... apparently love, or at least feel intrigued towards them. There are certain elements of fantasy that people expect to have respected. Fantasy in that sense is not like science fiction - sadly, But it's not impossible to create something new from something that seems overused. I think you certainly have the talent for it.

At least what I did, I stopped focusing on dark elves altogether and went deeper into something that is rarely talked about: half drow, or half dark elves. There's little to no info about them, no social structure even if they are "good" unlike their siblings. I can tell you, it's been hard, but it's been fun. That was just me of course. I am certain that with all the material you have you can reach to the vision you have of dark elves. Reading on what exists of mythology maybe can help too. Regardless, I cheer for you and your art.
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Firstly, thank you very, very much for the fav and the elaborate comment! That is both much appreciated!

I don't get you wrong for you are right.Why not creating a whole NEW race?
The thing is... over 10 years ago I decided to play D&D third edition, but in my own world. I love the game, I love the mechanics of that RPG (after testing 11 different games so far) and generally I love the rules too.
Now I put my effort into the world for though I like the rules, making it fair for everyone, my main focus is always the story. Each and every RPG tells you to change what you don't like... and I did. For each and every race I use on my world, I created some extras, some special rules. I even have 13 different human *breeds* and all are a wee bit different, have some specials, still following the basic rules of D&D 3.5.
I liked the idea of dark elves too, of their so very different culture, their chaotic and evil ways... what I didn't like were quite some rules. So with the help of seasoned gamemaster friends I changed what I didn't like and playtested it and changed the culture of the drow to my liking too. It is still almost the same for I was just lazy and I didn't want to invent the wheel anew when there was a realm and race of which I liked 85%.
The main reason I always mention that my helmorui are no drow but very similar is, that people tried to tell me I used the WRONG rules. That got on my nerves. Like almost everybody else in RPG, I use the rules I like ;)
I have many hobbies, I don't have much time and for over ten years I am developing this campaign setting of mine. All is a bit different there but still... It is D&D/Pathfinder

I am no native speaker so I hope I was able to explain it a bit. Thank you very much again for the elaborate comment! :aww:
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elDrow Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Student Artist
No worries. I understood everything you said.

Now that you explained yourself, I understand, and I can say, screw the rest of the people. Is it wrong for me to see it as an extension of the drow species, perhaps cousins from some distant world? I mean, D&D is full of crossovers, and it digs into that more often than not.

Other thing is, I don't know how you managed to show this to the world and having the many complains. I surely wouldn't have been able to show the courage, but then again I would not be looking at these wonderful images you created. So, I'm glad you did :) I... I think I'll stay with my half drow, though, lol. They are nearly unexplored and interesting to build culture around a race that lives deep within the webs of organized chaos, but who's MO is survival rather than greed. Feels like writing post-apocalyptic stuff lol.
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Let us all have fun with our roleplays for that is what it is all about in the end, isn't it?
YAY FOR FUN!!!!!
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elDrow Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Student Artist
I agree :)
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Kristafee Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very beautiful hands and i love the color of the background and design. As someone who does sign ASL, this is beautiful!!
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Oh, thank you so much for faving! I am happy you like it for I tried to paint beautiful hands. I always imagine Cronachan's hands to be long and slender, but strong. Nimble and on the inside rough from swordplay, but on the other hand very gentle, when he wants to.
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SlayerXiena Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2011  Professional General Artist
Awesome!
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you very much... for faving too! :aww:
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SlayerXiena Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2011  Professional General Artist
^,\\ np dear Its really nice
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Marayn Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2010
Schön auch mal was ungewöhnliches mit ernstem RPG Hintergrund zu finden. Tolles Bild... überhaupt erzählen viele deiner Bilder beim näheren betrachten kleine Geschichten wie ich finde. Muss mir mal die Zeit nehmen und auch die Texte zu den Bildern lesen um ein wenig hinter die Geschichten der Helmorui und deiner Welt zu steigen. :)
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2010  Professional General Artist
Oh, dankeschön!!! Das ist aber ein toller Kommentar! Ich fühle mich immens gebauchpuschelt!
Es gibt in meiner Galerie auch einen *Cronachan* Ordner... Da gibt es etwas Hintergrunf Informationen zu den Helmorui. Allerdings sind sie im Großen und Ganzen schon wie die berühmten Drow, von der Geselschaft her. Das Aussehen ist auch ähnlich, aber sie haben andere Werte und Regeln von D&D ausgehend.
Vielen Dank für das Interesse und die Favoriten! Bis bald!
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Mithgariel Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
Mmmm, the details.
So, what's he saying?
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Professional General Artist
It is the symbol for *words* I thought that to be very befitting! Oh.. and on this place... thanks for faving all my latest works!
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Mithgariel Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
Went on a crazy spree using some free minutes at work. So excuse my very random and fast comments :p
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Professional General Artist
It was fun reading them!
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memoria13 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2010
whoa :)
it looks great, I'm completely fascinated! I think this could be a photo. :33
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much! Thai is a wonderful comment, I feel flattered!
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hawthorne-cat Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
ooooooooooooh very nice!
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you soooo much! i got a whole bunch of favs... I feel genuinely flattered!
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hawthorne-cat Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
its lovely... the graceful hands over the embroidered velvet
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much... Graceful... That was what I intended... to show off his beautiful hands...
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hawthorne-cat Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
=D
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Gorgone Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010
Ich wusste gar nicht, dass Lothar so schöne Hände hat! :D
Es sieht auf jeden Fall nochmals ganz anders aus als in der Rohfassung.
Und die Umsetzung des Themas ist mit Note: 1+ hervorragend geworden!
:heart:
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Professional General Artist
Ich habe sie noch gestreckt und geschönt... ;)

Dankeschön! Ich bin auch ganz happy! Ich bin auch schon am nächsten Bild recht weit... Es ist wieder was nacktes... ;)
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Gorgone Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010
Ich seh es schon kommen: Siobhan ist auf DA für ihre nackten Dunkelelfen-Männer bekannt!
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Professional General Artist
Bah... da gibt es noch ganz andere...
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Gorgone Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010
:laughing:
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Starjumper76 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010
Very good indeed.
Though I saw some of this picture in progress, the outcome is very nice to see.

:wave:
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much my dear! :hug:
I am already working on the next one! ;)

Oh... and thanks for faving of course! :heart:
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Starjumper76 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010
:huggle:
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Aowyn77 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
beautiful - love the colors of this!!!
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you very much! I am glad you like it since it is close to my heart too... I love Cronachans slender hands...
Thanks for the fav too! :love:
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Aowyn77 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
:)
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keyanadrake Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Professional Writer
That's really pretty. I particularly like the embroidered shirt behind the hands. Vivid colour. :nod:
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you!

I wanted to emphasize his beautiful hands and how beautiful the sign language is... :aww:
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keyanadrake Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Professional Writer
Well, you succeeded. :nod:
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Professional General Artist
:blowkiss:
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PHarold Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
This is very graceful showing the movemnets of thehands. Lovely And I like how even the fingernails are black!
This is what you were talking about earlier when you mentioned sign language.
It's a good thing you have a model. Aren't our men just so patient to put up with us?
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010  Professional General Artist
:nod:

Poor Lothar... He had to do several odd gestures... ;)
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FantasyBri Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Wow - beautiful... hands are so difficult! They would have been amazing in themselves, but then you took all that time to design the vest behind him.

I bet Lothar rolls his eyes and just asks 'what this time?' every time you contact him...lol. He must be a very sweet and patient guy to bear through all of your requests. You are lucky to have such a friend.
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much for the nice words! They were difficult indeed and Lothar modeling was a great help! I changed his hands though, to make them even more slender and longer. I am indeed lucky to have him!
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010
It looks like mudra and ninja hand stricks. :3
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Professional General Artist
Exactly! It is influenced by both!!!
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010
Cool ^^

Thank Lothar with an hug XD
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Professional General Artist
I will!
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010
=D
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HeilyAens Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010
it reminds me of the indian mudra, beautiful and well-done!
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Siobhan68 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you! I looked at indian mudras for inspiration but finally I forced Lothar to model for me! ;)
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HeilyAens Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010
well, having a real model is always helpful!! :D
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